As Reusable Nappy Week draws to a close, here’s the final instalment of my cloth nappy myth busting series. I’ve already covered laundry and looks and comfort, Today I’m going to finish up with a few bits and bobs, mainly cost and ease of use. So here we go with some statements and why I think they are myths…
They’re expensive to buy
If you look online at the nappy retailer sites it may seem a bit pricy to pay say £15 for one nappy. It is true that the initial outlay for a set of cloth nappies is more expensive than a pack of disposables – you could buy a big pack of sposies for £15. But the difference is that that £15 will in effect and up in the bin – once the nappies are used once, that’s it. But cloth nappies can of course be used again and again, on several children, so that £15 stretches over a long period of time. We had a set of fitted nappies that had been used on 2 children before mine, then my 2 boys, then I passed them on to another mum for her new baby when Andrew potty trained, so that’s at least 5 children, and they are still going strong.
Some nappies do cost £15 to buy, but not all have to cost that much. First of all there is the thriving pre-loved market, where you can find cheaper than new nappies in good condition – Facebook has several groups for buying, selling and trading nappies, eBay has lots of listings and you can get some real bidding bargains, and there are specialist nappy forums like Cloth Nappy Tree that have free-to-list classifieds sections. So if you don’t have the cash for the initial outlay by buying new, these are a great place to look, and if you do have the cash to buy brand new, you can usually get a fair bit of your money back once your kid(s) have finished with the nappies by selling them on via these sites, knowing that they will be going to another family rather than landfill.
There are certain types of nappy that aren’t so popular, and these can be found really cheap or even free on freecycle (for example). These tend to be flat nappies or pre-folds, and also some older brands of fitted nappy like Motherease and One-life. I’ve personally always got on very well with both of these for my boys, even though they aren’t the most popular, so it’s not like they are no good, just not the prettiest, but teamed with a funky wrap they work well.
One thing I would recommend before buying any whole sets of nappies that are more expensive than a real bargain, is trying a few different ones, either through your local nappy library or by buying a few cheap ones pre-loved. If you don’t get on with a particular style, at least you won’t have shelled out a couple of hundred pounds on a whole set of that style!
They’re too much of a faff – to put on / to take with you when you go out
Modern cloth nappies are nothing like the image that you might have of needing to be an origami master to get a square piece of towelling onto a baby’s bottom. There are so many different styles, and many are just like a disposable in terms of how you put it on the baby – an all in one piece with absorbency and waterproofing sewn together, and with velcro tabs that pull across the tummy to fasten, it really couldn’t be any easier. Some are slightly more complicated in that you have to popper or stuff the absorbency into the waterproof shell prior to use, but once it’s in, you just put it on like a disposable, and once you know what you’re doing, you can stuff nappies with a blindfold on. Poppers are an alternative to velcro, and especially handy if you have an older baby or toddler who likes to pull off nappies (including disposables) as poppers make it harder for them to do that!
It might seem a bit odd to be carrying around dirty nappies in your change bag, when you can just throw a disposable away where you changed your baby. If the nappy is just wet, you can easily pop it into a ‘wet bag’ – waterproof zipped or drawstring bags that are designed to hold nappies until you get home. If the nappy is dirty, then I just make sure that as much of the poo as possible is flushed down the toilet, and then pop it in the wet bag and sort it out properly when I get home. I make these bags myself, and I know that with a good zip closure and sealed seams these really do keep in smells, so there’s no need to worry about stinking out your bag. Or if space in your bag is an issue, then most wet bags for out and about (like mine 😉 ) come with a popper-fastening handle that can be fastened onto something else like a buggy handle or bar. Or if you’d rather not carry cloth nappies around with you, there’s no reason why you can’t just use them at home.
There’s no point me buying and using them, I’ll be going back to work in a few months and my childcare won’t use them
I think the first point to make here is that any amount of landfill that is spared by using cloth nappies is great – whether that’s one nappy, 10 nappies, 100 nappies or 1000 nappies. So even if you do end up switching back to disposables, it will not have been a waste (in fact quite the opposite!) to have used cloth nappies for a shorter period than the average 2.5 years from birth to potty.
The second point is that you may be surprised by your childcare provider’s policy on nappies. Our childminder was perfectly happy to change cloth nappies (after all, she’d used terry squares with her own older children), and I know a few other childminders who use still cloth nappies on their own children so are happy to do it for others in their care too. I have less personal experience of nurseries, but I know a few friends who send their child to a nursery where the staff are also happy to change cloth nappies. I’m not saying that every childcare provider will be OK with it, but of the people I know who use cloth nappies and whose child also goes to a nursery/childminder, most have managed to continue using cloth nappies once they returned to work.
It’s all or nothing – cloth nappies or disposables
To tie up this post on myths, here’s one that I’ve touched on a few times above. Although it’s nice to use any cloth nappies that you buy as much as possible, it really doesn’t have to be full time. If you only use them at home, that’s OK. If you only use them until you go back to work, that’s fine. If you don’t start using them until your baby is a few months old, that’s great. If you only use them in the daytime, that’s not a problem. If you get behind on the washing and there aren’t enough dry, don’t worry. If you just have a bad day and can’t face another cloth nappy, nobody will think anything less of you! As I said above, if you just save one or two disposable nappies from landfill, that’s a help, and as the saying goes, every little helps.
We started using cloth nappies when Andrew was about 6 weeks old, once we’d got through all the disposables we’d got free and been bought, and once we felt stressful feeding issues has settled down to some extent. Joel was in cloth nappies from a few days old. Andrew was in disposables at night until he started soaking through them at about 18 months old and I had to do some research on night nappies that were absorbent enough for his super heavy wetting. Joel has always been in cloth nappies at night. Sometimes we use disposables – when we go away (about 3 weeks a year) is the main reason, or when Joel got a particularly sore bottom from teething wee (until I found out about charcoal boosters and these have been great for this), or if Andrew’s night nappies haven’t quite got dry in time depending on when I did the washing and whether I could get it outside. So even as someone who likes to promote cloth nappies, I’m not afraid to say that we occasionally use disposables, it’s by no means all or nothing. There’s also the eco-friendly disposable option, or cloth nappies that you can buy eco disposable inserts for that fit like a cloth insert into the cloth shell – another reason why it’s not black and white.
I hope that this series of myth busting posts has been useful for you. Please let me know if you have any further questions, I’m happy to chat nappies any time. There is still some time to join in all the fun of Reusable Nappy Week and try to win some nappy prizes. Check out the Reusable Nappy Association’s Facebook page. Happy nappying!
It’s that time of year again – Reusable Nappy Week! Well it used to be called Real Nappy Week, though I’ve always preferred to call it Cloth Nappy Week (as I don’t like the implication that disposables aren’t ‘real’), but Reusable means the acronym RNW still fits. I’ve blogged about cloth nappies quite a bit over the 3 years since we started using them, especially when I was running Nappyness (Cambridge Nappy Library and Meet-ups). This year I decided that a couple of posts about busting some cloth nappy myths would be a good idea. I know I had some preconceptions about what they were like before I looked into it some more — mainly from what I’d heard they were like when I was in nappies! And others who I’ve spoken to have had similar ideas about what they think cloth nappying involves. So here are some statements about cloth nappies that I have personally come across — of course there are no doubt more — and why, in my experience I think they are myths….
They’re hard/complicated to wash
Forget boil washing on massively long cycles! That’s the first thing to note when washing modern cloth nappies. In fact if you boil them, they won’t survive too long. Boil washing would be fine if you were using plain cotton terry squares, but not for newer designs that have PUL (polyurethane laminate — waterproof fabric) and/or elastic as part of the nappy itself, because these materials degrade quicker than you’d like at high temperatures. But there’s no need to wash at those high temperatures anyway.
40 degrees is generally fine for most of the times that you wash cloth nappies. The main exception when it’s advisable to wash at 60 degrees is if you know of or suspect a tummy bug or other contagious illness. Otherwise I wash at 60 about once a month or so or if I do a ‘strip wash’ (more on this soon). Washing at 40 rather than 60 (or 90) also reduces the amount of energy you use to clean the nappies.
One issue that cloth nappy users sometimes run into if they don’t know about it (like I didn’t when we first started before I read up online about it) is using the right amount of detergent. Too much and it can clog the fabric making it less absorbent, too little and it won’t be effective in cleaning and may lead to ammonia build up. Other factors like water hardness and washing machine can also influence how much detergent is needed. For example we lived in Cambridge for 3 years of nappy washing and after realising that we were using way too much detergent leading to less absorbent nappies, I cut right down to the often cited 2 tablespoons of powder; only then we had ammonia build up (stinky nappies, sore bottoms), so I used a little more (about 4 tbsp, still less than a full dose) and we no longer had issues. Some modern washing machines are very ‘eco friendly’ in their minimal water usage, but this isn’t ideal for nappies that need plenty of water to rinse the detergent away so it doesn’t hang around in the fabric.
OK, this does sound complicated, you may be saying. It sounds like it, but once you do a bit of trial and error to figure out how much detergent if optimum in your machine, it’s very easy. And if you do use too much detergent for too many washes or if you get ammonia build up, it’s a simple procedure to correct: you do a ‘strip wash’. As the name suggests this means stripping the nappies of any built-up chemicals. If you goggle ‘strip wash nappies/diapers’, a few different methods come up. The one I’ve done is to use a full dose of detergent at 60 degrees and then do many rinses until I can no longer see bubbles in the washing machine.
Have you already got lots of washing, with a baby and maybe other children too? I know not everyone wants to have any extra loads of washing than they have to, but my take on this was that I’m doing piles of washing anyway, so what’s a few more loads a week going to do to me? I had two boys in full time cloth nappies for about 9 months until Andrew potty trained in the day (he still wears nappies at night), and I did (and still do) 6-7 loads of washing a week – total for clothes, bedding, nappies etc.
What about fabric softener? Some people worry about fabrics (that are next to sensitive baby skin) getting rough over time, and so would like to use softener to counteract this. The trouble is that softener clogs the fabric and leads to a decrease in absorbency. I’ve not had a problem with rough nappies, and there are several styles that don’t have rough terry fabrics next to the skin anyway, but rather a soft, stay-dry fabric like fleece, minky or velour. I’ve also heard that a quick blast in the tumble drier every now and then can help to soften up rough, dry nappies.
Which type of detergent is best? Non-bio is better than bio, because bio will degrade elastics and PUL over time. Powdered detergent is better than liquid, because liquid tends to coat fabrics leading to build up and decrease in absorbency. Some cloth nappy users swear by natural products like the Eco Egg for washing nappies, which have no chemicals so you can’t get a build up of them in the fabric. We tried an Eco Egg a while ago but didn’t think it cleaned particularly effectively in our machine. This is just our experience and I’ve heard that its performance can differ quite a bit depending on your machine.
Here are my key points for washing cloth nappies…
start off using about 2 tablespoons of detergent (non-bio powder), adjusted up if your water is particularly hard
wash at 40 degrees on a normal (not quick wash) cycle, or 60 degrees in cases of illness or strip washing
do extra rinses if your machine is economical with water usage or if you still see bubbles at the end of your main wash cycle
They’re hard to get dry or take too long to dry
I think this very much depends on the time of year and what your home is like for size and ventilation. Of course it’’s easiest to dry nappies when you can get them out in the sun and wind and they dry naturally. The sun also helps to get rid of stains. I’d say I get nappies outside most days that I wash them from about April to September, though I’m aware that some fairly recent British summers have been very wet and this might not always be possible.
I think we were lucky that our flat where we lived for 3 years of nappying was very efficient at drying nappies hung on an airer — they would generally dry in a day, or two days for the very absorbent night nappies. It was only a small flat, but we never felt like nappies and washing were taking too much room, so I’d say it’s perfectly possible to get nappies for 2 dried in a flat without a tumble dryer. Since we moved to live in a (fairly modern) house, it’s been taking a bit longer for them to dry inside. I’ve found that the key is to have good air circulation and ventilation in the room where they are drying.
Another key point is to think about what style of nappies dry quickest (and that are suitable for your baby’s/toddler’s needs). I find that it’s useful to have a variety of nappies, some that dry quicker and others that dry slower, so we can mix and match depending on what’s dry. Flat nappies like pre-folds dry very quickly, as do the waterproof wraps that go over the top, and some styles of nappy have insert sets that popper into the shell, meaning that you can have extra popper-in sets (which dry slower than the shell) to use with the quick-drying shell. Natural fabrics take longer to dry than man-made fabrics, so having some of each means you’ll always have some nappies dry and ready to use again sooner than others. And just having more nappies available in your wash and wear cycle in the winter than in the summer is a good idea.
What about tumble drying? Well it is possible to tumble dry some types of nappy, but if you regularly tumble dry, the energy you use to do it means that using cloth nappies is no longer as environmentally friendly as you might think. Of course not everyone uses cloth nappies for environmental reasons, but if that’s one of your reasons, tumble drying is best avoided. It’s also not a good idea to regularly tumble dry nappies with elastic or PUL (waterproof fabric) because they degrade more quickly with constant heating like this, and some fabrics, especially bamboo, are quite fragile and tumble drying would decrease the life of the nappy.
What about drying on radiators? Similar points apply as to tumble drying. Direct heat like this is not good for elastic, PUL or fragile fibres like bamboo. From an energy consumption point of view – if you constantly have fabric items hung over your radiators, the central heating will have to work harder to heat your room to your desired temperature, and you’ll be using more energy for that. So again, it’s not ideal if you’re concerned about the environmental side of nappies.
You get poo on your hands when changing cloth nappies
You get poo on your hands when changing nappies — full stop! So I guess this one’s not actually a myth, but I don’t believe it’s true that you get more poo on your hands using cloth nappies than disposables. This kind of statement is usually flung at me by those who don’t yet have (born) children. Unless you’ve been a particularly well involved Aunt/Uncle/much older sibling/Godparent etc. and actually changed a baby’s nappy, then you may not be aware that being a parent means you’re going to come into contact with poo — fact. Of course there are steps you can take to minimise the amount of poo contact, by learning how to change a nappy most effectively, but it will still happen. And that’s before you even get to toilet training.
When it comes to cloth nappies, there are flushable liners that you can place in the nappy to catch any solids in the nappy, which you simply pick up and flush, meaning there is no more contact than sorting out a disposable nappy. This is probably also a good time to point out that technically we’re not supposed to get rid of any human poo in the bin, so even disposable users should flush as much poo as possible from the nappy — believe me, I’ve tried, and it’s a heck of a lot easier to flush poo from a cloth nappy than a disposable. Of course nobody actually does this and it’s clearly not an enforced rule, but still, interesting if you’re concerned about the environmental side of nappies.
I personally choose to use reusable fleece liners, which I pick up at a corner that isn’t covered in poo and sluice in the flush as I pull the lever on the toilet, holding on tight to the liner. I may get some dirty water splashing over my hands, but it’s no more yucky than muddy puddle water, which I frequently come into contact with when looking after my boys, and in the bathroom I can immediately wash my hands with anti bacterial hand wash (which I can’t in a muddy field).
I hope this has covered enough about poo… or maybe not quite….!
You have stinky buckets of water sitting in your bathroom
One image I had of cloth nappies before we used them is buckets full of pooey water hanging about in the bathroom until wash day. In fact I did this for a while until I learned that this isn’t how best to do it for modern cloth nappies (i was going on perfectly reasonable practice from old terry squares). These days the advice is to ‘dry pail’ instead of ‘wet pail’. When you take a wet nappy off your child, you simply put it in an empty bucket with lid or a ‘wet bag’ (waterproof bag that keeps in smells) as it is – no water involved. When you take off a dirty nappy, you get rid of any solid poo by using a flushable liner or by sluicing a reusable liner in the flush, and then put the nappy in the bucket/bag as it is.
When it comes to wash day, you do a cold rinse cycle before your main wash, which is the equivalent of the old soaking, except this means the nappies aren’t sitting around in the stinky water for a couple of days. It’s important to do a cold rinse, because if the water is body temperature or above, stains will be set in rather than washed out.
I hope this has been useful information about the laundry aspect of cloth nappies. In my next posts I will bust some more myths about other aspects of cloth nappies – hope you’ll come back and read them 🙂
For this meet-up I decided that a day, time and venue different from the first meet-up would be good, so that hopefully it would suit some people who couldn’t make the last one. Monday 10th June 11am-1pm at Living Stones Cafe in central Cambridge was what I went for. There is a play area for older babies and toddlers which Andrew loves, so we often go there when in town and in need of a refreshment stop.
I knew a few people had said they were planning on coming, though unfortunately one family couldn’t make it on the day as the toddler was poorly, so I was looking forward to seeing them and any others who might turn up. When we arrived, Andrew soon settled himself in to the play area, and I ordered some drinks. We were soon joined by two mums, one with a toddler and one with a baby, and it was especially nice to meet one of them for the first time – she’d seen Nappyness ‘like’ something on another Facebook page, so clicked on our page and was pleasantly surprised to see that it was based in Cambridge where she lives! Social networking at its best 🙂 A little later, another mum turned up with her baby, so there were four of us in total.
We got talking about our various different nappies. One type of nappy that I don’t personally have any experience of using (yet) is the hybrid system, a compromise between the convenience of an all-in-one and the faster drying time of a two-part system, and some of which include a disposable insert option that many parents use on holiday or when cloth nappies are less practical for whatever reason. One mum had brought her Close Parent Pop-ins along, and another had brought her Bumgenius Flips as well as some Mothercare smart nappies, all of which are this kind of nappy (gNappies are also another popular make). They comprise a waterproof outer and a pre-fold-like absorbent insert (in various fabrics or disposable) which fits into the wrap which is designed specifically to hold it in place. The other three mums are finding that this type of system was working well for them, as well as other types of nappy.
One of the mums is also quite a fan of pockets, which I have more experience of than hybrids, though I don’t tend to use them as much as our two-parters and all-in-twos. Three of us are also keen on Little Lamb fitteds, which I use at night time for Andrew as they come in a size three which fits him well unlike many birth-to-potty nappies that he’s outgrown at less than 2 and a half, and we all find that the fitted style is good for times of heavier wetting when pockets, hybrids and all-in-ones just don’t last long enough.
We discussed a few other things such as vest extenders and whether we use flushable or fleece liners. We also talked about how the idea of Nappyness was a good one and that there must be more people who would like to come to the meet-ups, including those who are just thinking about cloth nappies or just starting out with them. The other mums were happy to take some posters and flyers to put up at places they go like groups, libraries and children’s centres. So we’re hoping to spread the word through these. I also have a list of places I go to, and other places to make a special visit to, where I can leave a poster and some flyers. I have also been in touch with the ladies who organise our local NCT bumps and babies group, and they are happy for me to go once a month with the nappies to show anyone there who would like a look.
In other news… The library is coming along nicely. I am in the process of applying for a bank account for it, which is one step on the way to applying for some funding from Cambridge City Council. I’ve recently received some nappy donations, and I am expecting some more in the next week or so. The photos and descriptions of the nappies in the library so far are almost ready to go on the Facebook page and website, so that people can see in advance of meet-ups what they might like to borrow. It’s all very exciting! It’s definitely worth watching this space 🙂
It’s still Real (or Cloth as I would call it) Nappy Week. Following on from my previous post, here is the second instalment of questions that I’ve been asked about cloth nappies, and my answers to them. I’m hoping the automatic publishing while we’re away hasn’t all gone pear-shaped (eek!). As I said previously, take what you like and leave the rest, it’s not my desire to sound all preachy about this. I ended the previous post with an answer on how you go about deciding which nappies to buy if don’t have any already, but what if you have some already…..
How do I get good fit with nappies I already have?
I found that I had to experiment a bit with the various styles we have to get the optimum fit, and not all of them worked well first time. For us, the place to concentrate on for stopping poo leakage was the leg holes. Both my boys started off with skinny and long thighs, which have gradually chubbed up over time; this made it hard to get a good fit with the leg holes. I have found that one-size nappies and wraps tend to work better than sized (small, medium, large) for adjusting the fit around the legs. If you have a chubbier-legged baby, this might be less of an issue. Another tip is to add extra boostage to try and pad out the nappy a bit in the right place around the leg gussets, but be careful not to have any of the absorbent bit of the nappy touching clothes as this will lead to leakage (wicking).
Another place to concentrate, for both wee and poo leakage, is the rise of the nappy, which (like jeans fit) refers to how far up the body it comes. We have some that sit nearer the hips (the hipsters of the nappy world!) and some that come up to the waist (the granny pants of the nappy world!) Both my boys are taller than average with long bodies, and so lower rise ones can be prone to leaking because they don’t come up very far past the bottom – wee tends to wick (leak when touching fabric) to the waistband of their trousers, and a particularly big poo can come up the back (though this isn’t a problem with Andrew), but I tend to only use low rise ones, which also have a lovely trim fit, when we’re at home and can change it more easily and frequently than when we’re out. If you have sized nappies, going to the next size up can often help with rise issues, even if your baby is still within the weight range for the smaller sized nappy (though you might find the leg holes an issue if you have the skinny thighs issue – so many variables!) If you have one-size nappies which can be adjusted at the rise, this is a good place to start if you have regular leak issues.
There is a trick for fit that is different for girls and boys: I find that putting most of the absorbency at the front of the nappy for boys is a good idea, because their wee is focused at the front, whereas girls need more absorbency underneath. The same also applies for overnight use and whether you have a tummy or back sleeper. Andrew is very wriggly, but overall he seems to prefer tummy sleeping, which means I concentrate the absorbency at the front, but I would concentrate it nearer the back if he favoured back sleeping. If you have pocket nappies, you can either stuff them with an insert folded at the front (can be tricky) for extra front absorbency, or stuff as usual and add an extra insert folded between baby’s skin and the pocket.
Wraps come with two fastening types: velcro (or aplix) and poppers. I like to think of them like analogue and digital when it comes to fit – velcro can offer a more precise (analogue) fit because you can tweak it infinitely, whereas poppers give a less precise fit, because you can only pop them in a finite number of places. Having said this, I actually prefer poppers because velcro sticks to other nappies in the wash and can cause damage, even if you try and remember to fasten it to itself before putting in the wash, and over time it can get all fluffed up and less effective; I only have one wrap that I use (semi-)regularly which has velcro.
How do I prepare them for the wash and how do I wash them?
There are two ways to prep the nappies for the wash….
The dry soak method – put your dirty nappies in a or a washable sack or a nappy pail with no water in, then when you come to do a load of nappy washing, do a pre-rinse cycle in the washing machine before the full wash cycle. I haven’t tried this method so I don’t know if it’s much different to what we do. I imagine it may use more water than the other method, depending on the size and efficiency of your washing machine.
The wet soak method – put your dirty nappies in a nappy pail with water in, then when you come to do a load of nappy washing, tip the excess water from the pail down the toilet and do a wash cycle as normal in the machine – no need to pre-rinse.
Won’t I get poo on my hands though?
This question (or sometimes a statement – I’ll get poo all over my hands) mostly comes from parents-to-be, who, unless they have been a very hands on aunt/uncle/Godparent or worked in childcare, have never had the joy of changing a stinky nappy. Once you become a parent, you soon learn that getting poo all over you, not just your hands, as well as sick, snot, chewed up food etc. is just part of every day life – you become immune to it all and just get on with clearing it up as best you can. I’d say I left my squeamishness brought on by the sight of bodily fluids in the birthing room that Andrew was born in, so I was totally unfazed by a stream of projectile sick that Andrew launched all over me a couple of months ago (in fact I had to try hard not to laugh as he was upset by it), which would have totally freaked me out two and a bit years ago.
I’d also say that I get no more poo over me with either type of nappy. Baby (pre-solids) poo, especially breastfed stuff, goes everywhere anyway, whichever nappy, and a quick rinse in the toilet soon washes anything off the nappy – no more messy than the job of cleaning your toilet. Older baby and toddler poo gets caught on the flushable liner which you pick up by the ends where there is no poo and chuck down the loo – no more messy than a disposable, and you don’t have poo hanging around in your bin. When it comes to the pails for soaking, if you’ve shaken any excess poo down the toilet, there is very little left in the water, so putting them in the wash is no more messy than putting any other dirty laundry into the machine.
Don’t you spend ages doing all that extra washing?
To be honest, when you’re already doing a load or more a day anyway, you don’t notice one more. We wash nappies about every 2 days, which is a full load. Yes it does take me time to empty the pails and then hang them out once washed and put them away when dry, but if we used disposables I would spend more time going to the shops and more time going out to the flats’ communal bins, both of which involve going out of the flat and taking the boys with me – not practical. I like it that I can be around the boys whilst hanging the nappies up to dry and they can be napping/playing/having fun rather than being in the buggy going round the supermarket, and I can abandon the task whenever if something is more urgently in need of my attention.
Is it true what they say about cloth-nappied bottoms potty train earlier than dispie-nappied bottoms?
This is hard to answer because I don’t have an Andrew who has regularly worn disposables to compare with the Andrew who has mostly worn cloth nappies. From what I’ve seen of potty training toddlers so far, I think a lot of it is to do with personality and when each individual child is ready. Andrew has been slowly potty training for quite a while now, and it’s all been led by him (I really must write a post on this sometime). He seems very aware of when he has a wet and dirty nappy, perhaps a bit less so when he wears disposables when we’ve been away, but it’s hard to be scientific about it.
This brings me to the end of my ramblings about one of the things I get most passionate about when it comes to baby stuff. I hope it’s been useful to someone out there. Please let me know if it was, or if you have any further questions, by commenting below or getting in touch via Facebook/twitter (buttons on top right of the blog). Thank you!
Happy Real Nappy Week! I know, I know, there’s an awareness week for everything these days, but this one is particularly close to my heart so I had to write something about it (and schedule it to post automatically in case I couldn’t get internet where we are on holiday this week – eek, hope the random computer in charge of this somewhere likes me, I guess it must do if you’re reading this!) In fact it turned out to be 2 posts worth, so this is the first instalment, and the second will come on Wednesday (if the automatic publishing thing works – this could all go horribly wrong!)
First of all, I have to say I cringe slightly at the name ‘Real’ Nappy Week – are disposables just a figment of my imagination then? I prefer to use the word ‘cloth’ when talking about what I put on my boys’ bottoms. If we’re not careful, banging on about ‘real’ nappies as opposed to disposable ones can become just another one of those parenting choices that gets blown up into some big debate and leads to parents in one camp criticising those in the other for their apparently inferior choice. So what I definitely don’t want to do with this post (or any others I have written on cloth nappies) is make out that I think our choice to use cloth nappies is superior to the choice of many of my friends who use disposables. Our choice has worked for us, but we are all different with different families, lifestyles and priorities. All I want to do is share our experience and get info out there to those who want to know about it – basically all for my love of cloth. It’s a case of take what you like, and leave the rest.
Having got this disclaimer out the way, here begins the post proper. I’ve posted about cloth nappies a few times before. This time last year I wrote about our experience of just one type of nappy with Andrew, and then more recently I wrote about expanding our stash for two bottoms, and later gave the pros and cons of each type we now have since we’ve used them for both boys. What I want to do here is a kind of FAQ-style post with points that I’ve been asked before by those who are thinking of using cloth or who are using it already but have some issues/questions. Today I’ll cover the two most common questions I’ve been asked, and the next instalment will cover the rest.
Why do I use cloth nappies?
Save money – This was our main reason for choosing cloth. We were kindly given a set of preloved Motherease nappies suitable from birth to potty, which fitted Andrew very well. Even when I had to buy more when Joel came along, I managed to get some brand new ones in an online sale and some preloved ones online and at a nearly new sale. Overall we will have only spent around £200 on nappies for 2 children (including flushable liners), and even when you take into account the cost of washing them (which Tom worked out with a clever gadget you put on the washing machine), this is nothing compared to the cost of disposables which would be into the thousands for two children. If we had waited to have another baby until Andrew was out of nappies, we would have spent even less, and the more children you use cloth nappies on, the cheaper they work out to be.
No waste for landfill – I was going to write ‘better for the environment’, but I recently edited an article for the Cambridge NCT magazine written by a sustainability consultant who has looked into the environmental impact of both types of nappy – his verdict was that cloth nappies aren’t as green as we might think if you take into account detergent, central heating (to dry inside) and tumble-dryer use; the best way to limit environmental impact is by using eco-friendly detergent and line-drying outside, which is what we do whenever possible. To my mind, comparing cloth and disposable nappies is like comparing apples and oranges when it comes to green credentials. Each has an impact on the environment in a different way, and it’s hard to say if one is ‘better’ than the other. One thing I do know is that our bins are not full of nappies that will get chucked into a landfill site.
Convenient – We do most of our shopping little and often on foot or by bike, which means we wouldn’t find it easy to carry home big packs of disposables when we go shopping, or we would end up going in the car more often and spending money on petrol. We have all the nappies we need at home already, and every now and then we get some flushable liners delivered from an online shop with free delivery.
Are they as reliable as disposables?
Yes, often even more reliable. There is an ‘if’ coming though….. if you get a good fit.
Our experience of disposables: When Andrew was a baby, we started off using disposables for about 6 weeks, and we didn’t think there was much difference between different disposable brands, most of which we got free or money off with Bounty pack vouchers and supermarket parent club offers – they all seemed to be reliable. But Andrew rarely pooed in his nappy (that’s a whole other post for another day). When Joel came along, pooing wherever, we noticed that Huggies in particular were rubbish at containing newborn poo compared to others, and a real explosion wouldn’t be held in by any brand (we used disposables when we were away at Christmas); I also know that my niece, who is a month older than Joel, can only wear Pampers because other brands just aren’t a reliable fit. We used to use disposables at night with Andrew, but when he was about 18 months old, they started to leak regularly and he’d wake up wet all the time, so we switched to well-boosted cloth nappies, which I originally thought wouldn’t last the night, and they work well apart from the odd night.
Our experience of cloth: The difference between cloth nappies and disposables is that cloth come in all sorts of different shapes and styles, and babies of course come in all sorts of shapes and sizes too, so it can take a bit of trial and error to find cloth nappies that work well with your child. This was something I learned when Joel was younger, as we did have some poo leaks with the Bambino Mio wraps because his thighs were too skinny for the leg holes (my niece had the same problem). But these were a bargain second hand so I didn’t mind trying a couple of other wraps (Rumparooz, Blueberry) which turned out to work much better with our pre-fold nappies for his thighs. Once we found what works best after a few incidents, I’d say our cloth nappies are now more reliable than disposables for overnight and containing newborn poo explosions.
One thing I would say is that in general, you need to change cloth nappies more frequently than disposables, unless they are heavily boosted (like for overnight use), because natural fabrics just absorb wetness to the point that they are saturated, whereas disposables contain chemical gels that keep absorbing wetness until they would eventually explode – don’t try this at home, but putting a disposable in a swimming pool would be a great experiment to show your child!
How do I know which nappies will fit my baby/toddler best?
If you haven’t bought any cloth nappies yet and are wondering where on earth to start and what will fit, I would recommend three options:
Find a cloth nappy library – You can borrow nappies just like you borrow books at a more conventional library. See the UK cloth nappy library page on Facebook for your nearest one. There isn’t one in Cambridge yet, and I’m seriously tempted to look into starting one, again just for my love of cloth and wanting to spread that love.
Look out for bargain sets of pre-loved nappies at nearly new sales or online – I bought a pre-loved starter pack of Bambino Mio pre-fold nappies and wraps for £20 at an NCT nearly new sale, and there are so many that we have shared them between Joel and my niece. Even though the wraps aren’t great, the pre-folds alone would cost much more than that new. For pre-loved nappies online, I particularly like Gumtree, which is local so you avoid postage costs, usednappies.co.uk, preloved.co.uk and the classified ads section on the clothnappytree website.
Buy one of each of a few different styles new – If there’s no library near you, or you can’t get any pre-loved, try just buying a few to begin with rather than splashing out on a big starter set which might not suit your baby. When you know what works best, you can always get more of your favourite styles.
If these answers have got you interested in using or switching to cloth nappies, stay tuned for more FAQs on Wednesday, same time, same place……
This post started out as a supposedly brief mention in my pregnancy diary post for last week, as I spent a lot of time last week finally making decisions on nappies so that we will have enough to dress a new little bum as well as Andrew’s ever growing toddler bum! But I soon realised that I had a lot more to say than a brief mention would allow. I decided instead to devote a whole post to recording my decisions, partly to spare Tom more of my wittering on about cloth nappies when he gets home from work – if I’ve had an outlet on the blog, then hopefully I’m less likely to bombard him with tales of fluff; its also partly so I have something tangible (apart from the nappies themselves of course) to show for all my hours spent researching last week – I’m a researcher by training, and a good researcher always writes up what they find so others can benefit ;). I thought the post would appeal to some of my readers who might be thinking about using cloth nappies either now or in the future. As the world of cloth nappies has its own lingo I’ve tried to do some jargon busting along the way in this post; I know I’ve found it hard to figure out the various bits of terminology as I’ve been reading reviews and forums online. You may have noticed that I already used the word ‘fluff’ above – that’s a general term used by cloth nappy enthusiasts to mean cloth nappies.
Let me give a (quick-ish) summary of our cloth nappy experience to date (I wrote about it a while ago too). Before Andrew was born, I’d heard about modern cloth nappies, and how they were different from the terry squares that Tom and I had been decked out in as children of the early 80s. We decided to do a bit of research and figure out whether we wanted to use them with our new baby. Tom, being Tom, did the maths and worked out that financially it was definitely worth using cloth, as the energy and water we’d use as well as the initial out-lay for the nappies (which handily we ended up being given anyway) would still work out cheaper than disposables (we call them ‘dispies’, though I’ve also seen ‘sposies’ in cloth nappy quarters) in the long run, especially as we were planning on having more than one child.
We had heard it said that using cloth isn’t quite as ‘green’ compared to disposables as many people think, because of the extra energy involved in washing, but we came to the conclusion that you’re comparing apples and pears: all that landfill versus more energy consumption – they are completely different environmental issues. The eco dispies, which are more expensive than ordinary ones, seemed like another good option. But we also thought about how we shop – as we live so near the supermarket, we rarely use the car for shopping (or at all for that matter) but instead do it mostly on foot or bike, a little each day, whereas if we used dispies, we’d have to use the car to carry home the big packs as well as our usual groceries, or shop online and consume the fuel of the delivery van not our car. In the end we decided that personal financial reasons were higher on our priority list than trying to figure out the environmental impact of the various options, which at the end of the day is impossible for us to do on a personal scale.
I also loved the cute look of all the different prints and colours of nappy that are available these days, and was really keen that my baby would have a well-dressed bum. One of my reservations was whether they would dry quickly enough in our small flat; we have a balcony but no garden, and I imagined airers of nappies up for ages, taking over our living room. But the design we went for means that different layers of the nappies separate, which speeds up drying time, and I have certainly not been bothered by the amount of washing in our flat (besides, where would we fit the big packs of dispies that you have to buy on offer to get the good deals?!)
So which design did we go for initially? When we’d decided that we would give cloth a go, my parents kindly gave us a set of 16 ‘pre-loved’ (read: secondhand, but it sounds so much nicer when you’re talking about nappies!) Mothereaseone-size fitted nappies and 5 of each size of waterproof outer wrap (small, medium, large) to last from ‘birth to potty’ (often abbreviated to BTP). The main nappy, which is made of towelling material, is shaped like a dispy nappy, has poppers that do up easily without the need for pins, and is separate from the waterproof wrap that poppers on afterwards. These have fitted Andrew well, right from when he was about 6 weeks old to now, and we’ve had just the right amount if we wash them every 2 to 3 days. We have added some more boosters to our ‘stash’ (collection of cloth nappies) as Andrew has started to become a heavier wetter in toddlerhood than when he was as a baby, but otherwise our stash is currently what it was at the start.
I should say here that until now we haven’t used cloth nappies at night, because we thought that they wouldn’t be absorbent enough and didn’t want to risk leaks being the reason why he would wake up, especially when he was little and would wake up in the night for feeds anyway. But recently Andrew has started to out-wee the dispies that he should be in for his weight, and not all brands even do a bigger size than what he’s in. This had led to much laundry of bedding as he’s woken up soaking in the morning. So I thought we had nothing to lose now in trying cloth at night (which real cloth nappy addicts say is perfectly doable and in fact better than dispies), because leaking doesn’t seem to wake him up and I’d rather wash a few more nappies a week than bedding every day! The other thing to mention in explaining my decisions on stash expansion is that Andrew has in the past month or so started showing interest in the potty. We haven’t had any dirty nappies in a while, as it’s all gone in the potty, though his daytime nappies are still generally fairly wet and his night-time ones very wet.
In my quest to expand our stash, there were two tasks:
Increase the number of daytime nappies we have, as we currently only have enough for one bum, though with more frequent washing it could probably stretch to 1.5 bums – that still falls short of 2, and I don’t want to clear up the consequences of not having that half a bum covered!
Get some cloth nappies for use at night time with both bums.
For the first task, I had various options in mind – either get more for Andrew (and baby wears the Motherease), or get more for baby (and Andrew wears the Motherease), or get a few more for both Andrew and baby (and they both wear the Motherease – that’s the great thing about a one-size, it fits baby and toddler). In the end I went for the third option, as I’ll explain soon.
If you know me well, you may be wondering why I’m doing this with less than 2 weeks before due date – surely I could have sorted this out sooner than a time when baby could arrive any day. Well I had done some research on nappies back in June, and had decided to try some itti bitti boos for Andrew, which had come recommended as a very absorbent (or ‘thisrty’) but also slim-fitting (not bulky) nappy; this sounded perfect for Andrew who was then wetting very heavily in the day, before the potty captured his interest. This was supposed to be the first step in trying something new, with the view to Andrew having these and baby having his old Motherease ones. But then came a UK-wide lack of itti bitti boos! A very helpful retailer, Miranda at Twinkle Twinkle, who had one bitti boo left in stock to send me, then tried to chase the company several times over several months for me, but all to no avail – they just couldn’t say when the new batch would arrive in the UK (they are an Australian make). Eventually, the weekend before this one just gone, I decided I’d have to give up on that plan, and look elsewhere. This is the main reason why it’s taken me until now to make some decisions, and in a way I’m glad of the wait, because our needs are now changing with Andrew wetting less in the nappy and pottying more – we probably don’t need to buy much toddler nappy (daytime) gear, but rather concentrate on a few more bits for baby and some cloth night nappies.
Where did I do my research to help me come to decisions on stash expansion? My first port of call has been a few sites that have general info on cloth nappies as well as lots of reviews by mums (and dads, though usually mums) who, along with their little ones of course, have tried and tested the amazing array of nappies on the market. I particularly like clothnappy.info, which also has a Facebook page where I’ve asked questions, and clothnappytree.com, which has a great forum where I’ve asked questions. Once I had my eye on a few different brands and models that looked promising, I then kept checking out some sites that sell pre-loved nappies, in case I could spot any bargains of the ones I was looking for. I particularly like Gumtree, which is local so you avoid postage costs, usednappies.co.uk, preloved.co.uk and the classified ads section on the clothnappytree website. Unfortunately I haven’t yet come across any that I’m looking for that haven’t already been snapped up – you have to move fast in this dog-eat-dog world of pre-loved fluff! But I live in hope that one day I might pick up the odd bargain or two by keeping an eye out when (if) I get chance to look at pre-loved sites.
Which nappies did I decide on in the end? After much reading, mouse clicking, more reading and more mouse clicking, I came up with an action plan that should be enough to start off with, and we can always get more of certain ones once we’ve tried the bits and bobs that I’ve acquired depending on how Andrew’s potty interest develops. First I’ll just give a quick list of the types of cloth nappy that are out there, so I don’t have to explain what each type is that I’ve gone for as I name them. It turns out that we’ll end up with some of most types of nappy (except the all-in-one type). This list is based on the descriptions found at clothnappy.info, with extra info added by me:
Fitted – These are what we already have (Motherease); they are a piece of towelling material shaped like a dispy nappy, with some form of fastening e.g. poppers, and also need a separate waterproof cover or ‘wrap’; they usually have a staydry inside layer and the absorbent layers are sewn into the core (the middle strip) of the nappy.
Flat/Pre-fold – These, like the fitteds, are also a two-part nappy system; they have a square piece of fabric, similar in texture to a muslin but with many layers sewn together, which you fold into a rectangular shape that fits into the crotch and is held in place by a separate waterproof wrap (rather than any form of fastening like the fitteds).
All-in-one (or ‘AIO’) – These, unlike the fitteds and pre-folds, are a one-part nappy system; they have a waterproof outside layer, a staydry inside layer, and absorbent inserts are sewn in between the two, so you can’t take the nappy apart at all – this is very convenient for changing (like a dispy it only has one layer of fastening to do) but it takes longer to dry than a separable nappy.
All-in-two (or ‘AI2’) – These are a compromise between an AIO and fitteds/flats; they have a waterproof outside layer (the shell) and a snap-in inside layer, which can be separated for washing and therefore drying faster than an AIO, but poppered back together when dry so that there’s only one layer of fastening to do when changing (like an AIO).
Pocket – These are also a compromise between an AIO and fitteds/flats; they have a waterproof outside layer, a staydry inside layer and in between the two is a pocket into which you can place absorbent inserts, as many or as few to suit the amount that the child wets; you separate the nappy and inserts for washing and (therefore fast) drying, and put it back together when dry, ready for the nappy change during which there is only one layer of fastening to do.
For all the above nappies…
….you can add boosters inside the main bit of the nappy (or inside the pocket with pocket nappies) if the absorbency of the nappy alone isn’t enough for how much the child wees.
…. they usually come in two size options: either ‘sized’, which means you buy small, medium, large etc. as the baby grows, or ‘one-size’ (‘birth-to-potty’ or BTP) which should fit a newborn as well as a toddler, normally involving some folding or poppering to change the size.
My first acquisition was actually a few weeks ago when I went to our local NCT nearly new sale, on the lookout for a starter set for my brother and his partner to use with my niece. I found a bargain bag of 36 Bambino Mio pre-folds and 6/7 wraps in each of three sizes (newborn, small, medium – which should last her upto about a year old, if they like them). The price was so cheap that it seemed silly to them not to buy it, even if they didn’t end up liking cloth or those nappies in particular, and that’s what I thought too. But as they are wisely waiting a little while before trying cloth, just like we did as life is challenging with the addition of a first baby, I asked if they wouldn’t mind me keeping some of the newborn wraps and some pre-folds, so that our newborn could get some wear out of the smallest wraps that my niece may well have grown out of by the time they start using the nappies. In return I gave them a few of our Motherease to try as well as their pre-folds, so that their initial experience of cloth isn’t just based on one type of nappy. [Correction: they have in fact started using the cloth nappies already, which is great!] I’m curious to see how these pre-folds compare with our fitted nappies. For a start, they look far less bulky than the Motherease for a small baby. As these pre-folds were more of a swap than an acquisition, that doesn’t increase the number of nappies in our stash much, but it does increase our variety. If my niece and/or her parents don’t get on with them, and if we do, then maybe they might like to swap some more Motherease for some pre-folds.
Although the itti bitti boos were nowhere to be seen this summer, I do love the one we have, because it’s such a lovely slim fit and is gorgeously soft, but is also extremely absorbent; this seems to be the design of all types of itti bitti nappies in general. So I decided to order a couple of each size (small, medium, large) of the itti bitti d’lish(snap-in-one or all-in-two (AI2) design) for use in the daytime with baby and Andrew – especially for when we go out, as I’ll only have one layer of fastening to do rather than the two that I currently have with our separate fitted nappies and wraps, to save time in nappy change rooms which are sometimes challenging enough with one baby let alone a toddler and a baby.
I was recommended, by a few friends as well as online forums, Fuzzibunz nappies– they are pocket nappies which can be stuffed with various amounts of boosters to suit daytime or night-time use. They come as either a sized nappy or a one-size which adjusts with poppers to fit different ages. I went for a couple of one-size Fuzzibunz, to try out on both Andrew and baby, both in the day and at night, and see what works best.
Online I was recommended Minki pocket nappies for overnight use with a toddler, as apparently they are ‘bombproof’ (!) when you add lots of boosters. The great thing is you can also use them as trainer pants for a toddler if you don’t add boostage. This seems like a good thing to try on Andrew now, as we can adjust the absorbency to fit with how he’s going with the potty, so I’ve ordered a couple for now. They haven’t arrived yet, so there’s no photo here. Finally, I added some little lamb bamboo boosters to one of my orders, which will be a useful addition to our stash of boosters, so that we can stuff them into pockets for extra absorbency overnight. These are supposed to be one of the most absorbent boosters you can get!
Where did I buy from? There are so many websites out there selling cloth nappies, that it took me quite a while to trawl through them all and compare prices. I have to say there isn’t much in it really, unless you find a sale on somewhere or a special offer. I often wish that I could just visit a shop that sold all the different types and buy them there and then instead of waiting for orders to be processed and delivered, even though it doesn’t really take that long (unless there are stock issues like the itti bitti boos!) Call me old fashioned, but there’s just something about the shopping experience that isn’t the same online. Tom often jokes that I should set up a cloth nappy shop in Cambridge – I actually reckon there might be a market for it, but I’m not sure I’m really business-woman enough to give it a go. In the end, my favourite sites for shopping at were Twinkle Twinkle (because the owner Miranda has been very helpful in the whole boo saga), fill-your-pants.com (mainly because of the name, but also as they do free UK delivery for all orders), and The Clean Green Nappy Machine (because they actually have a real shop, but unfortunately it’s up North, too far to go even for cloth nappies otherwise I’d be there like a shot, and because they do discounts if you buy a lot in one go).
So that brings us to the end of my thoughts on nappies for this week. You can probably tell that I’m very enthusiastic about this! I hope what I’ve written is helpful and interesting for anyone considering cloth nappies, or even those who are using them already, or even those who have no need to use nappies (these last people probably haven’t read all the way down here I’m guessing!) I’d love to read your comments if this was useful to you.